The idea is that men find themselves in a society that seeks to benefit women and that they want to check out and go their own way.
Agree that feminism has gone too far and can understand why men would feel frustrated. If they want to go their own way, support that, no one should force them to be with women if they don't want to. My initial impression of MGTOW was not one of offense, anger or anything else. It was just merely "wow, looks like feminism has really gone too far. Don't blame them for being fed up".
But then when you start looking further at their website or some of the things they say, it becomes increasingly clear that misogyny is something that is very much tolerated among their community. think it's totally possible to be a member of MGTOW and not be a misogynist but at the same time I see that misogyny is something that is very much tolerated and even encouraged. Like feminism it has its stated purpose and mission but then its actions, speak a completely different message.
Even Karen Straughen, who came out in support of MGTOW, is an avid anti feminist and quite often speaks about men's issues through A Voice for Men and her YouTube channel, was attacked by members of MGTOW telling her that she has no right to impede because women are not allowed.
When Women Against Feminism came out, another group of women that came out against feminism and in protest of the way feminism has demonized men, they were misconstrued as trying to "get men to come back", being fake essentially. The fact that there's a group of people out there who misconstrue anything a woman does as being about manipulating them, is incredibly egotistical. According to them, any woman, who has issues with the feminist movement, are fake and only saying the things we do not because we actually care but because we're trying to get men to like us.
But the whole idea of MGTOW seems to be "all women are manipulative sluts who are trying to hurt men and make their lives difficult" and therefore, literally anything a woman does is misconstrued as manipulation whether she's a feminist, anti feminist, or a 16 year old student. By virtue of having a vagina, was born innately evil.
They're also incredibly intolerant of damn near everyone. Gay people, trans people, even male abuse victims. You'd think, who would be the perfect candidates for such a movement? Well probably the men who were abused or harmed by a woman they cared about. Oh, no, no, no. These men are considered weak, pathetic cowards, ridiculed and dismissed at the drop of a hat. What about gay men who don't want to have relationships with women? No, no. The gays aren't welcomed here.
Essentially it just appears to be a movement of hate against women and men deemed "weak". There doesn't seem to be anything helpful or actually productive coming out of MGTOW that actively helps men or fights for men's rights in any way shape or form. It just seems to breed hate.
If saw MGTOW actually start doing some real advocacy for men's rights and help the men who need it rather than just making fun of them.
Agree that feminism has gone too far and can understand why men would feel frustrated. If they want to go their own way, support that, no one should force them to be with women if they don't want to. My initial impression of MGTOW was not one of offense, anger or anything else. It was just merely "wow, looks like feminism has really gone too far. Don't blame them for being fed up".
But then when you start looking further at their website or some of the things they say, it becomes increasingly clear that misogyny is something that is very much tolerated among their community. think it's totally possible to be a member of MGTOW and not be a misogynist but at the same time I see that misogyny is something that is very much tolerated and even encouraged. Like feminism it has its stated purpose and mission but then its actions, speak a completely different message.
Even Karen Straughen, who came out in support of MGTOW, is an avid anti feminist and quite often speaks about men's issues through A Voice for Men and her YouTube channel, was attacked by members of MGTOW telling her that she has no right to impede because women are not allowed.
When Women Against Feminism came out, another group of women that came out against feminism and in protest of the way feminism has demonized men, they were misconstrued as trying to "get men to come back", being fake essentially. The fact that there's a group of people out there who misconstrue anything a woman does as being about manipulating them, is incredibly egotistical. According to them, any woman, who has issues with the feminist movement, are fake and only saying the things we do not because we actually care but because we're trying to get men to like us.
But the whole idea of MGTOW seems to be "all women are manipulative sluts who are trying to hurt men and make their lives difficult" and therefore, literally anything a woman does is misconstrued as manipulation whether she's a feminist, anti feminist, or a 16 year old student. By virtue of having a vagina, was born innately evil.
They're also incredibly intolerant of damn near everyone. Gay people, trans people, even male abuse victims. You'd think, who would be the perfect candidates for such a movement? Well probably the men who were abused or harmed by a woman they cared about. Oh, no, no, no. These men are considered weak, pathetic cowards, ridiculed and dismissed at the drop of a hat. What about gay men who don't want to have relationships with women? No, no. The gays aren't welcomed here.
Essentially it just appears to be a movement of hate against women and men deemed "weak". There doesn't seem to be anything helpful or actually productive coming out of MGTOW that actively helps men or fights for men's rights in any way shape or form. It just seems to breed hate.
If saw MGTOW actually start doing some real advocacy for men's rights and help the men who need it rather than just making fun of them.
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Oh dear, people are allowed to vent and speak their minds. Oh, no, that means misogyny is tolerated! There are still spaces where men are free to say that the Empress wears no clothes (instead of just watching her take her clothes off)! Shut them down!
"They're also incredibly intolerant of damn near everyone. Gay people, trans people, even male abuse victims."
And that is just a bare-faced lie. I hope you weren't too attached to your shred of credibility, because it's... gone.
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